Epic v. Apple trial is over. Here’s everything we learned.

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    As Epic Games pushed to get back into the iOS App Store, a lot of secrets came out, including surprising details about Microsoft’s cloud gaming strategy and the future of Fortnite.

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Did you play Fortnite on an Apple device before it was removed from the App Store?

16 күн мурун
Gacha Life123
Gacha Life123

Ues

5 саат мурун
4RC4N3 W4s T4K3N
4RC4N3 W4s T4K3N

yes

7 саат мурун
CDA_Freezy
CDA_Freezy

Yup I miss it

Күн мурун
Aryan Jaligama
Aryan Jaligama

I conected a controller to play

Күн мурун
Flamelion 9878
Flamelion 9878

Yes

Күн мурун
cosmic snow
cosmic snow

in the end apple will lose

Саат мурун
yooneunhye sarang
yooneunhye sarang

So, what I've learnt here?

2 саат мурун
Onur Akyurtlaklı
Onur Akyurtlaklı

Erm.. No one’s forcing them to place their product to Apple’s platform? If they dont like it, they can just take their product to elsewhere?..

14 саат мурун
Ari Afghani
Ari Afghani

7:05 Damn..

17 саат мурун
64 bit
64 bit

this started 9 months ago? damn...

18 саат мурун
That Red Hooded
That Red Hooded

I literally download pirating apps from the app store...

20 саат мурун
Lynx Lynx
Lynx Lynx

Soooooo aple îs a comunist state

Күн мурун
Tanmay Sankolli
Tanmay Sankolli

Basically, Apple restricts everything which affects them right?

2 күн мурун
Big Mosquito
Big Mosquito

if you don’t like the appstore, go and buy an android hahahahaha what monopoly you little crybabies

2 күн мурун
Aaron Bonner
Aaron Bonner

Shut up about App Store, Apple can do what ever they want there, the simple solution is like android, go into setting and enable third party downloads from trusted sources, like safari. Perhaps Apple could let third party app stores be downloaded from safari. Funny part, most users wouldn’t even notice.

2 күн мурун
Averdein
Averdein

As long as fortnite is gone I’m good

2 күн мурун
The Cake Glutton
The Cake Glutton

“But it’s a private company, they can do what they want” say the same people defending user bans on Facebook and Twitter

2 күн мурун
Abhishek Nautiyal
Abhishek Nautiyal

actually we need high security more then ever, we should be paid too to watch the ads

2 күн мурун
Jojope YT
Jojope YT

the british guy : shh....... ......sh ....shh....shh.....shhh.....shhh....... .....shhh.. too much shh in his wording

3 күн мурун
Pulkit Jain
Pulkit Jain

On a separate note, Russel Brandom has a notch!

3 күн мурун
Julie Miller
Julie Miller

Rooting for Epic simply because I want Apple's walled garden to get steamrolled.

3 күн мурун
Eddie Butkaliuk
Eddie Butkaliuk

If you wanna be on apples platform, you got to follow their rules. Simple as that.

3 күн мурун
OkFaker
OkFaker

So who won?

3 күн мурун
Smiley
Smiley

Apple = monopoly. Simple.

3 күн мурун
Mahmud Turker
Mahmud Turker

I just want to play rocket league on my mac lmao

3 күн мурун
FROSTKILLER
FROSTKILLER

This why I have an Android

4 күн мурун
sunkenship
sunkenship

High production quality

4 күн мурун
saurav
saurav

Apple ❤️

4 күн мурун
M B F T R
M B F T R

I miss those days when everyone is using a Nokia 3310.

4 күн мурун
abhi4ify
abhi4ify

Spotify should also have been a party

4 күн мурун
Tony Franco
Tony Franco

so..............................................................................................................................................who won?

4 күн мурун
Astro Gaming!!
Astro Gaming!!

Idk

3 күн мурун
Alpha
Alpha

Steve jobs: don't make me come down there you punkk

4 күн мурун
I don't know
I don't know

People actually still play this game.

4 күн мурун
Lores
Lores

@OkFaker yep

Күн мурун
OkFaker
OkFaker

yes. yes they do. Is there anything wrong with that? People can play what they want.

3 күн мурун
Manuel Sariles
Manuel Sariles

One word: Greed

4 күн мурун
Smile ツ
Smile ツ

App store is a mess with the amount of push Apple has to promote certain things. Hopefully they loose this case and we can get more control back, otherwise the future looks worse.

5 күн мурун
Cloroxbutworse
Cloroxbutworse

Of the AppStore is so secure download zoshy+

5 күн мурун
pr0xZen
pr0xZen

Phones today is just about as commidity general purpose devices anything _can_ be, without turning into toilet paper or water.

5 күн мурун
Ryan Anderson
Ryan Anderson

the REAL trial was the one between Google and Oracle. It just changed EVERYTHING.

5 күн мурун
Votix
Votix

Maybe that's why they currently is making FuchsiaOS?

Күн мурун
James Guthrie
James Guthrie

Hmm where you got this info from is beyond me I can literally play my Xbox games on my iPhone away from my house with a controller and an app lmao 😂 I think this channel needs to do more info searching

5 күн мурун
Marauder
Marauder

stay away from my cpu

5 күн мурун
george bruce
george bruce

😂😂😂

5 күн мурун
Debra Dukes
Debra Dukes

Although I have been following this. I appreciate all the great content.Thanks so much for sharing Deb.👌💯✌

5 күн мурун
Raiyyan Siddiqui
Raiyyan Siddiqui

This is why I refuse to buy apple products, even if it were on principle alone. But in 2021, both platforms are good enough, and on Android you can choose your own launcher. I will NEVER buy an Apple product, as long as I live

6 күн мурун
LilacMonarch
LilacMonarch

Wow the rich corporation is really taking the other rich corporation down a notch. I'm sure this will have benefit for us and not just divide the same amount of our money between themselves slightly differently

6 күн мурун
Othnieel _
Othnieel _

To be honest if I was Apple, I wouldn’t allow third party stores on my platform.

6 күн мурун
Maxim Iac
Maxim Iac

thtats the future, apple its already owning almost any app on appstore

6 күн мурун
C. Daubz.
C. Daubz.

Very biased video

6 күн мурун
C. Daubz.
C. Daubz.

Very biased video

6 күн мурун
Pranav Choudhary
Pranav Choudhary

iOS can't be better than android.

7 күн мурун
kamdi egenti
kamdi egenti

The Battle of the Tims

7 күн мурун
Halos
Halos

Apple just being apple, and people still buy their products on the basis of popularity that they supposedly give.

7 күн мурун
Eddie Butkaliuk
Eddie Butkaliuk

No I bought because the ecosystem is second to none

4 күн мурун
ejcupcake1234
ejcupcake1234

Nvidia GeForce NOW be like: i FiNnAlY hAvE a UsE

7 күн мурун
Rodrigo Moncada Diaz
Rodrigo Moncada Diaz

Open iOS would be a Cheap version of Android? XD hahah nuts... 9:30

7 күн мурун
T Marsh-Connors
T Marsh-Connors

Now don't get me wrong yes I am a massive fan of Apple HOWEVER it just sounds like EVERYONE is jealous and they want some of the market shares. Seriously why can't other companies just come together and get a grip and work on making different alternatives.

7 күн мурун
T Marsh-Connors
T Marsh-Connors

@King K then how is that Apple fault?

3 күн мурун
Smile ツ
Smile ツ

The problem is apple legit banning certain app categories from the app store as they are scared they would loose control or money from doing so. And it only hurts the consume 😂. Like for example xCloud and Stadia are both not allowed to be on the app store since they are classified as app stores and would bypass the apple 30% cut. Why would you want to play by apple rules when they are out dated and anti competitive.

5 күн мурун
King K
King K

I get the point but the problem is nobody else can make there own store

6 күн мурун
Kush Unadkat
Kush Unadkat

I did not know Epic and itch.if we’re connected

8 күн мурун
Lachlan _Kesh
Lachlan _Kesh

Fun fact I think apple named I phone 10 as iPhone x because fortnite season 10 is called season x

8 күн мурун
Lachlan _Kesh
Lachlan _Kesh

Yeah I played games for the info btw

8 күн мурун
Akash Barman
Akash Barman

Please give me phone please

8 күн мурун
SprigFan23
SprigFan23

When it comes to the idea of opening up iOS to allow side loading apps, I’m in favor of that. More choices for users in how they want to use their phones is a good thing. However, I don’t think the government should force Apple to open up iOS for side loading apps because at the end of the day, Apple created iOS. Therefore, they should be able to control how it operates. Besides, if you don’t agree with Apple’s policy for installing apps, there’s always Android which does allow side loading. There is a lot more to this App Store debate, which is why I find this issue fascinating. But this my current stance on it. I side with Epic on the principle of opening up iOS, but I disagree with their method of achieving said goal.

8 күн мурун
Anonymous_69_420 U don’t know me
Anonymous_69_420 U don’t know me

I simply came here for third party App Store

8 күн мурун
Julian van der Merwe
Julian van der Merwe

Lol I'm looking forward to hearing about this on the WAN show tomorrow.

8 күн мурун
Player-87
Player-87

As much as hate the game of Fortine and it's players, I really hope that Epic wins.

8 күн мурун
ItzYaBoyyRuben
ItzYaBoyyRuben

Why doesn’t Apple give the option for security on the iPhone. For example, I would like iOS even better when it’s more opened up instead of Apple holding your hand. More like MacOS

9 күн мурун
Fl4me675
Fl4me675

I got an apple ad from this...

9 күн мурун
Biggoron
Biggoron

I say fortnite need to come back to mobile or ima get me an android phone

9 күн мурун
Lee Kang
Lee Kang

I hope Epic wins.

9 күн мурун
Jaiden Young
Jaiden Young

Someone doesn’t have an iPhone

7 күн мурун
Paige Mangubat
Paige Mangubat

i don't know why anyone still uses Apple

9 күн мурун
Jackson playz fortnite
Jackson playz fortnite

Daddy

9 күн мурун
From Simone
From Simone

Finally, Apple is being questioned and challenged

9 күн мурун
Timothy McSwain
Timothy McSwain

Is Apple perfect? No, far from it. But those developers DID sign legal contracts to be on the App Store, and Epic violated that. At the end of the day, it’s as simple as that — I would have banned them too. It’s okay to disagree with Apple’s policies… you don’t need to release on iOS. I can’t imagine such a game would be any good on mobile anyway, even if it was good on consoles and computers.

9 күн мурун
King K
King K

I get your point but why us apple blocking people from making their own stores

6 күн мурун
Masceye
Masceye

Alright, I have a solution and it involves opium, lots of opium.

10 күн мурун
Glitch Kit
Glitch Kit

9 months 0_0

10 күн мурун
Ingwie Phoenix
Ingwie Phoenix

Apple: Adult content would flood our platform! Meanwhile: Game of Thrones doing more than just hints at what is happening. Mhm...

10 күн мурун
Umi
Umi

appple needs to make money too

10 күн мурун
Lores
Lores

uhhh they do?

Күн мурун
User
User

So the trial is over, but no one won? Doesn't sound over to me.

10 күн мурун
Lofi Wurld
Lofi Wurld

lol they wanted 30 cents every dollar wtf, that’s straight thieving 😂

10 күн мурун
Timothy McSwain
Timothy McSwain

Yet developers agreed to it when they signed up to sell on the App Store, so they’re legally bound to that. Apple created and maintains the platform, so they can set the terms — if people don’t like it they don’t need to use it, and if nobody uses it Apple will be forced to change their rules. It’s not a difficult concept.

9 күн мурун
BeefyBizness
BeefyBizness

A naked banana in their games bro

10 күн мурун
JZ
JZ

I still have the season 3 on my iphone

10 күн мурун
First Name
First Name

Users are also to blame here. Why even buy an IPhone to begin with?

10 күн мурун
Smile ツ
Smile ツ

At the end of the day, we are deciding whether or not we own something after buying it.

5 күн мурун
Smoke Tires,not Drugs
Smoke Tires,not Drugs

Not everyone likes android just like how not everyone likes apple. its user preference

9 күн мурун
Don't Click This Profile. Ever. Ever!
Don't Click This Profile. Ever. Ever!

Will say, this is a well produced video, and it was presented clearly. Kudos!

10 күн мурун
Mightic
Mightic

Epic games should really look into jailbreaking. If Epic started releasing fortnite and other games on jailbroken ios devices exclusively (or even if they just released raw IPA files and let people figure out how to install them) then that would definitely push apple into reacting since it would raise a lot of attention for jailbreaks (and I mean a lot). Apple already tried to sue a jailbreak developer but the court sided with the jailbreak dev so Epic would probably get away with it especially since they probably wouldn't develop the jailbreak exploit themselves. Honestly, not sure why Epic hasn't done so already. Maybe releasing prepackaged jailbreak libs would be a bit far but just releasing standalone ipa files which can be installed through jailbreaks much like how they have a fortnite apk already would be cool.

11 күн мурун
XxstuntkidXx
XxstuntkidXx

No one won

11 күн мурун
Димитър Клатуров
Димитър Клатуров

So I watched this till the end just to know that the result could be out in a few months from now. I just feel like Epic right now and Verge is Apple, they stole my time!

11 күн мурун
JayySur
JayySur

7:02 courage?

11 күн мурун
Bilal Syed
Bilal Syed

So… who won?

11 күн мурун
Laurent de backer
Laurent de backer

I mean, in any way, i can agree that its Apple's store and if they ask 30% they can. Not happy, make your own online store... 🤷🏻‍♂️

11 күн мурун
Kshitiz Pokhrel
Kshitiz Pokhrel

Their app store monopoly on ios leads to unfair treatment to devs and rejection of competing products. For such large consumers, competing stores will be healthy for both consumers and devs

23 саат мурун
Laurent de backer
Laurent de backer

@pink or cyan but long Oh, i was talking about making a store to sell their own app. Sorry, misunderstood you there!

8 күн мурун
pink or cyan but long
pink or cyan but long

@Laurent de backer They can't! The point is that you're literally not able to install app on iOS from anywhere other the Apple's store, so how the hell is someone going to make a separate store to sell iOS apps, when it's impossible to install them from there in the first place

8 күн мурун
Laurent de backer
Laurent de backer

@Hussain N AL Qatari Yes they can! But not on Apples platform, wtf! Apple has their own platform. Other devs can make their own platform on their OWN servers. Not on Apple servers DUH!

10 күн мурун
Hussain N AL Qatari
Hussain N AL Qatari

They can't, that's the whole point

10 күн мурун
Federico
Federico

From now you will see the notch in this guy head… sorry!

11 күн мурун
Graham Morgan
Graham Morgan

Let’s take a moment to appreciate Xbox and PlayStation selling their consoles with no profit. Apple and Google take note!

11 күн мурун
Woo 991
Woo 991

The lack of profitability in consoles is actually how they make a profit. The more consoles they sell at a loss, the more they make. Xbox live might cost $0.30 for Xbox to give you, but charges $10, and they show ads for other games everywhere. In the end, you end up spending more because of it. Let's say phones start doing this. That $800 phone is now $400-$600. Now the phone needs to have a huge subscription fee monthly for them to make a profit in the end(same as Microsoft and sony). If the average person keeps their phone 2 years that's $10-$15 a month they need to make off their average buyer. Those who don't buy the subscription/get a new phone after a year are a loss for the company. Those who go for 2 years are no profit for the company. Those who keep their phones for very long amounts of time(people do this) can end up spending $1500 on a phone that should have cost $800. It works for consoles, it will never work for phones.

9 күн мурун
Sean T
Sean T

I pray Epic doesn’t win and turn the App Store into something like the Google Play store 🤢🤢

11 күн мурун
Sandesh shetty
Sandesh shetty

Fck Apple.

11 күн мурун
darktennisball
darktennisball

1:29 that's a lie, it's not hard to activate a tile

11 күн мурун
IDontModWTFz
IDontModWTFz

All I've got to say is 🖕 apple

11 күн мурун
Milan Toth
Milan Toth

God i hope apple wins. The comment about epic wanting to make ios a poor version of android is exactly how i feel about it. The reason that i bought an iphone is its safety and ease of use, both of which will be permanently erased, if epic wins.

11 күн мурун
pink or cyan but long
pink or cyan but long

@Milan Toth Funny, this doesn't happen at all on Android? even when manufactures also have the power to change any system policy and thus create their own locked app store, everyone still agrees on using Google Play and having their apps there, you can find Google, Samsung, Xiaomi, Microsoft and even Apple [Music] apps on there, it's almost like people are still going to put their apps on the store with most success over trying to manage their own stores for practicality, while people still have the option to install from other places if they choose so (Samsung's own store, Amazon, F-Droid, Huawei)

8 күн мурун
Milan Toth
Milan Toth

@pink or cyan but long idk how you not see this, but i will explain then: if microsoft has the opportunity to launch their own app store for microsoft applications, they will. If google does, so will they. And this way, the great apps all available today in the app store will be scattered over 20 small app stores by different companies, because they will pay the apps to join their app store and withdraw from apple’s app store.

8 күн мурун
pink or cyan but long
pink or cyan but long

Just... don't install apps from outside the store? How is letting other people do more things detrimental to you?

8 күн мурун
sub or ur gay
sub or ur gay

epic won

11 күн мурун
Adin Ross
Adin Ross

So is it coming back bc I didn’t understand a thing 😂

11 күн мурун
itsmattzed
itsmattzed

The game is coming back anyways, it was a huge money income for both and leaving it banned for the summer will be a bad idea

11 күн мурун
Mars Suckerbug
Mars Suckerbug

Whatever happens, I'm never going to use an apple product again. At least Epic gives away free games.

11 күн мурун
Box
Box

Verge is definitely on epics side, but this was a pretty good summary

12 күн мурун
HP Reviews
HP Reviews

Hi The, Verge, I had to watch to the end. Well put :)

12 күн мурун
Daniel Musser
Daniel Musser

Why does the title say that the trial is over when the video says that it won’t be decided for months?

12 күн мурун
Cody Eason
Cody Eason

You titled the the trial is over that's not a full article or it's not over

12 күн мурун
Cody Eason
Cody Eason

Ist that it what's the ruling

12 күн мурун
Bryon Feliksa
Bryon Feliksa

@10:22

12 күн мурун
ghostman
ghostman

I don’t see Microsoft allowing iOS, PS, and other competitors on their platform.

12 күн мурун
Btomaek
Btomaek

Wait doesn’t Apple make most money from phones and not the App Store

12 күн мурун
King K
King K

Yes

6 күн мурун
abbey Sekamatte
abbey Sekamatte

I had to watch to the end. Well put

13 күн мурун
Ali Cetin
Ali Cetin

I Don’t like fort nite anymore

13 күн мурун
Ozane Wolf
Ozane Wolf

This is another reason for me to not use apple devices, sometimes I don't wanna use Google apps so I have choices for 3rd party apps,

13 күн мурун
Ozane Wolf
Ozane Wolf

@Sky Cloud I was tryna make a joke

12 күн мурун
Sky Cloud
Sky Cloud

@Ozane Wolf Fortnight website and Amazon are hardly what I call sketchy sites to download apps from. Apple doesn't allow people to make informed choices on what to install on their own phones.

12 күн мурун
Ed E
Ed E

@Ozane Wolf ofc, same with the iOS app store

13 күн мурун
Ozane Wolf
Ozane Wolf

Oh yeah I forgot, but still some viruses get past that

13 күн мурун
Ed E
Ed E

@Ozane Wolf Google play protect scans all apps you download from anywhere for viruses, plus the same can happen on iOS lol

13 күн мурун
Wheelie Blind
Wheelie Blind

Android is better, as you can sideload apps even.

13 күн мурун

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